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KEITH MORRISON reporting: He was everybody's idea of the perfect best man. Pain, loss never end after tragedy strikes couple - East Bay Times MORRISON: But then things changed. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. He says his mother was so often, unavailable, especially from the time she started medical school. MORRISON: So different from who Andrew really was, a kind, devoted son who made Eagle Scout at 15. Happy Birthday Dr. Andrew Bagby. You should be 49 today. You should be I didn't have. Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss - Goodreads It's pretty easy to analyze what the, options are. doesn't take much to pull a trigger, does it? David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. Watching the documentary brings up a mix of feelings from joy to hatred. One contains the remains of their son, Dr. Andrew Bagby. They could check cell towers then, but only manually. In mid-December, the Bagbys talked to The Western Star about the rerelease of the documentary, Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father, by Kurt Kuenne. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. How do you represent the fact that this 13-month-olds death was preventable? I don't know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' MORRISON: Do you find yourself going back and playing that back in your mind? MORRISON: Zachary Andrew Turner, the son of murder victim Andrew, Bagby and his accused killer Shirley Turner, was born on July 18th 2002, eight, months after the young doctor's murder. She landed a residency at a hospital in Iowa, several states away but still close enough to allow occasional weekends with Andrew in Pennsylvania. At one point, one friend says that if he had one tenth of the people who cared about him half as much as they do about Bagby, he would be happy. As one friend said, Hes like the blessing Andrew left behind. It was for Zachary that Andrews parents retired, cashed in all their savings and moved from their lifelong home in Pennsylvania to Newfoundland, where Shirley Jane Turner lived. The Bagbys have done their best to resume life in California. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. Said, `Oh, no, I really can't.'. KATE: Ah, it was wonderful. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. We urge you to write your MP (if you're Canadian) or the Attorney General of Canada (if you're not) in support of MP Andrews' bill; the next few months are a crucial time. DVD: Amazon | B&N Kate Bagby feels her son was too trusting to agree to meet Turner at the park the day he was killed. And Im blessed to have David and quite frankly David is blessed to have me, said Kate. Are you having a good day with grandmom and. CORNER BROOK, N.L. It opens with a gushing montage of the friends of a doctor named Andrew Bagby, none of whom have one real bad word about him. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) This is Shirley Turner, yes. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. The Best Man - NBC News They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. If you were waiting to find out where exactly the comfort was in this litany of suffering, it is in Bagbys parents. Thought, you know, `Who would want to kill him?'. If nothing else is accomplished with this film, it will absolutely attach you to the too-short life that was Andrew Bagby's, and you're going to be sad that you didn't get a chance to know him -- but glad all the same that you know ABOUT him now." He said, `What can happen?'. 'Nothing to lose' | Gilroy Dispatch | Gilroy, San Martin, CA Click HERE for ticket information. (Trailer park; parking lot; water; Kurt on boat; excerpts from "Dear Zachary"; houses seen through rainy window; Kate and Zachary). Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. KATE: And so she said, `Oh, take him and get him dressed,' to me. I would have to dream up some reason to go over, there in the middle of the night, to--for me to just appear on her doorstep, Mr. BAGBY: Turned out I wasn't. David Bagby, left, and Kate Bagby, right, celebrate with their son Andrew Bagby at his graduation from medical school at Memorial University of Newfoundland in June 2000. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? "This is the purest, most intensely raw film I have ever seen of any kind, dramatic or nonfiction. (SPOILER WARNING: Do not watch this short until you have seen Dear Zachary. You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. In initial questioning, Turner claimed to have been home sick in Iowa when Bagby was shot, but cell-phone records showed her placing calls along the thousand-mile highway route between Council Bluffs and Latrobe in the days before and after the murder. They are selfless. Slamdance Film Festival book signing! I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). Office Manager. MORRISON: It's no easy thing to be a doctor in America. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. 7:30 I'll be at your house.'. Former Assistant Pastor at Jackson Community Church. March 18, 2008: Turner shot Bagby two days after he broke up with her at a Pennsylvania airport as she was set to fly back to Iowa. It also took 3rd place in the National Headliner Awards for Best Documentary of 2008, given by the Press Club of Atlantic City. This is where the foreshadowed bureaucracy comes back. David and Kate Bagby must have been saints to have had to tolerate personal dealings with their only child's murderess,and basically have to groval to her to even see their precious only-ever grandchild.Yet,they did whatever they could for the sake of Zachary.Most people (myself included) would have made away with Shirley Turner the first chance Thought that maybe he had found somebody that he could really be happy with. (Photo of Kate, Zachary and Shirley; photo of David, Zachary and Shirley; photo of Shirley and Zachary; photos of Zachary with Shirley and Kate), Mr. BAGBY: Our usual policy was just to let her go. Dear Zachary was named one of the top 5 documentaries of 2008 by the National Board of Review! Bagby, that man about whom no one had a bad word, was left lying face down in a Pennsylvania state park with five bullets in him. I thought if I do that, I go to prison, maybe Kate. And that's when it all hit the fan, I guess. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). August 5, 2008: I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' Mr. BAGBY: I have a lot of trouble with those things too, and I suspect what really goes on, what's called intuition, is really a very, very complex calculation of lots of little indicators, little things that Andrew said on the phone maybe. December 4, 2008: And he'd be like(turns. Man #14: I admire you and respect you so much for two things. Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss Someone found a car that didn't belong. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I was really upset when you took him today, because I feel like I did the day you saw him at Unified Family Court. (Shirley in court; Supreme Court of Newfoundland sign), Mr. BAGBY: And then they started slogging through the courts with one issue, MORRISON: In the meantime, Andrew's parents made a momentous. When Kuenne narrates the particulars of the crime, the evidence, or the legal proceedings, his voiceover shifts to a stylized, rapid-fire clip, making it easy for the audience to miss key details. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. He was like, `Eh, mm.' Dear Zachary had its Canadian premiere at the Hot Docs International Documentary Film Festival in Toronto, where it was welcomed by a line down the street and around the block to get in. Very, very serious. Former Production Manager at Mountain Gospel Radio. He'd been shot five times, including once in the back of the head, execution style. Purchase the album on: Amazon (Physical CD) iTunes Amazon MP3, DAVID BAGBY'S "DANCE WITH THE DEVIL" RETURNS TO PAPERBACK AND E-BOOK, After four years of being out of print, David Bagby's book "Dance with the Devil" (Andrew Bagby's father's powerful memoir of the events depicted in "Dear Zachary") is finally available in paperback and e-book. You were done. ', Mr. SHEARS: Things happen in America that don't seem to happen up here as. David Bagby - Facebook Simpson advised his friend to call the cops and to not under any circumstances meet Shirley Jane Turner alone. After Newfoundland woman killed their son and grandson, California Turner killed herself and Zachary before she could be tried for murder. (Supreme Court building; Shirley being escorted from court; photos of Kate and. Why don't you just take him?'. There were moments when something happened that had my heart beating so fast I became lightheaded and had to refocus myself. He seems to be talking about the unfathomable grief Shirley Jane Turner left behind. Shirley Turner had walked out to the end, of a pier with tiny Zachary strapped to her body with a sweater, then jumped, into the ocean. Unidentified Woman #10: (Kate holding Zachary) Zachary. Blu-Ray | DVD, BLU-RAY Authorities later determined his former lover Dr. Shirley Turner,. We did have him for a little while, she said. When Kate reached down to wipe one away, she accidentally knocked out the plug used to mask his facial wound. -, "Some of the week's biggest flicks aren't at Sundancefilmmakers have praised Slamdance film. Any reference to Turner as a flight risk, for instance, is accompanied by birdsong and pictures of flying pigeons. Then, upon. anything like that, would we take care of Zachary? And so he set out to collect the memories of Andrew's family and giant circle of friends. (David and Kate; photo of Andrew by tape being put into recording device; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you babysitting? -. Senior Writer and Project Manager. "Go into this cold and be prepared for a life-changing experience. I mean, we would never, disagree with her or fight with her about anything unless there was real. MORRISON: When another of Andrew's best friends, Kurt Kuenne, heard about the murder, he also went into a tailspin. We would've done handstands and cartwheels to. How the fuck do you live like that? Mr. KURT KUENNE (Director): I decided to go on the road to interview people, because I thought, you know, he's never going to have a wedding. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. -, "You don't just view what's happening on the screen -- you live it through every gasp and every tear, and every bit of exasperated anger(resulting) in one powerful standing ovation, the likes of which I have never seen at Hot Docs beforeDear Zachary will move you. I got to go to the trial. The film is by the phenomenal writer, director and composer Kurt Kuenne. This is the first example in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. Shirley asked them to take custody of Zachary while she was gone. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). He said, `What do you mean?' We just want as many people as possible to know this story, the documentary, for the practical reasons in my fantasies, I suppose some judge, some place, actually gets it and denies bail to somebody who could kill again, said David. MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? Mr. BAGBY: We fret and worried and everything. The full hour will not be available online. a--with a hand grenade in the kitchen with the pin already pulled. Mr. KUENNE: (Kate holding Zachary) Hello, bud. MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. Mr. SIMPSON: He said, `You'll never guess who showed up on my doorstep at 5:30.' Kuenne began making Dear Zachary before Turner revealed her pregnancy. But as someone else says, Grief is loves unwillingness to let go. So Andrew's father could just as easily be talking about love.