If you believe that you will be rewarded or punished according to whether or not youve tithed faithfully, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 47. 29 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I dont know your past, but I know mine and it aint righteous. When you discover that female is indeed wearing the acceptable dress, skirt or koulotts youre so relieved to know that shes right with God ! They are shared in my article about tithing: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/. If you consider it worldly and almost frightening if someone brings a different version of the Bible to church, and wonder what your Pastor would say if he knew, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. There are independent Reformed/Calvinist Baptists, and independent Arminian The only sin that is not forgivable is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit. We believe that Jesus Christ died for every man, and that each individual chooses to accept or reject the grace of God (Hebrews 2:9; I John 2:2). Smoking in itself is not sin but I do agree that smoking can cause teeth decay, lung cancer, breast cancer, etc. If your youth pastor eats a goldfish or gives away a baseball cap for every visitor a child brings, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. your comments are offensive, you are narrow minded. G. M. Matheny. 32 Go ahead and finish what your ancestors started. No government should interfere with the local church's preaching, activities, and ministry. Jesus says that if you love Him, that you will keep His words.. Only the KJV will be used in this group; We believe in salvation by grace Out of over 30 , maybe 5 in 25 years If you are careful to not show any emotion while singing for fear that you could be considered dancing, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 33. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. The membership (Genesis 2:24; Romans 7:2; 1 Corinthians 7:10; Ephesians 5:22-23), We believe that God expressly forbids intimate sexual activity be engaged in outside of a marriage between one man and one woman. Please read https://baptistdeception.com/bitterness-deception/ for an answer to your bitterness accusation/assumption. I disclosed to (2) pastors at this church personal and heart felt feelings that I thought and grew up and was told you can talk to your pastor, because he is a man of God. Although some Independent Baptist churches refuse affiliation with Baptist denominations, various Independent Baptist Church denominations have been founded. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. I believe the Bible, and if you do not believe the Bible and hate what the Bible teaches, it is because your opinion is more important to you, than what the Bible says, and if that be so, then there is really no reason for you to go to church in the first place. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished our redemption through His finished work on the cross as a representative, vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice; and that our justification is made sure by His literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Romans 3:24-25; I Peter 2:24; Ephesians 1:7; I Peter 1:3-5). In the last days, you will get churches like you have described in your initial post, but not all of them are the same. Inspired by Jeff Foxworthys You Might Be A Redneck IfI came up with a similar list of items for the IFB. 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G.F.F. 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. If you think that other than suits and ties for men is too casual for Sundays While I dont believe that you must dress up for church with suits and ties, however, I do believe we should honor God in His house by dressing up. Do I believe he punishes no, because Ive gone without tithing and had no awareness of punishment, but when I do tithe I find blessing of increase in physical and spiritual goods. I grew up in a baptist church and went elsewhere after college and I am learning how liberal other churches are and anything goes as long as the people are happy. The New IFB's website lists its core doctrines as salvation by faith alone, once saved always saved, King James Bible-only, the Trinity, soul-winning, "hard" preaching, prewrath post-tribulation rapture, and opposition of worldliness, Calvinism, dispensationalism, liberalism, and Zionism. My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. I dont agree with the term, sowing discord with the brethren because I agree everything what the Bible teaches. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? You can read some of them in the comments section and in the testimonial section here: https://baptistdeception.com/testimonials/. To the author, I hope youll be okay someday and if you can find a way to dig out that root I think youll find peace. I sought counciling to see if there was anything in the Bible that could give Hope to our relationship. The problem is assuming intent instead of asking. BTW, tithing isnt a Biblical teaching for NT Christians. Hypocrites! I could come to him with anything that was bothering or troubling me and he NEVER judged me or held me in contempt by making me feel like I was less than or not good enough. I assure you that Im living exactly how God wants me to be living and Im doing it outside of the IFB (yes it can be done LOL). I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. It didnt raise red flags for me. It emphasizes love at the expense of truth. And, I am genuinely sorry if any unbiblical or otherwise wrong IFB group, person or church, has hurt anyone here. You strain your water so you wont accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel! We had no money. In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. Which is more importantthe gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? If you believe everything said in this article then you must not have spent much or any time in a fundamental church. I must say, I was hoping the list would be more interesting but the fact mixed into the exaggeration of each point was mostly so true it seemed a bit pointless! Reading any other version outside of the King James Version is sin same concern as I mentioned topic 1 We ARE the church my friend! 2. Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. Believing that going to the movies is sinful but not renting them or watching them on TV I dont see anything wrong about going to the movies because I went to the movies years ago. Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. Everyone has sent in their life. Praise the lord God made salvation a gift, or I probably wouldnt have received it. [13] Robertson had previously attracted media attention after he stated that gay people should be shot and New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern should "go home and get in the kitchen". I forgot to mention my concerns on some of the other beliefs of the Independent Fundamental Baptist Church: For you are careful to tithe even the tiniest income from your herb gardens, but you ignore the more important aspects of the lawjustice, mercy, and faith. You wont go in yourselves, and you dont let others enter either. No one should be forced to any belief against his or her will. around the world wherever our Lord directs. There are a couple places but, they're all pretty much much secular and worldly. No, thats silly! Ask questions if you need to and Ill be happy to explain more. WebEvery active member wishing to speak shall rise and respectfully address the moderator. We believe that the Scriptures are inerrant, infallible, and God-breathed. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. Baptism of believers by immersion in water symbolizes sincere faith in Christ's death, burial, and resurrection with the desire to walk in newness of life. [9][10] On the weekend of the third anniversary of the shooting, the New IFB held a "Make America Straight Again" conference at an Orlando-area New IFB church. the appearance of things is more important than reality, aka, you will cover up abuse and silence victims in order to protect the name of Christ. Read one thing, make a judgment that Im just bitter and move on. 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. WebNo denomination, governmental body, or religious hierarchy may dictate the church's beliefs or practices. Yes, we have a tract rack. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. Pastor and his wife knew where we lived and probably wondered why, but they never asked or pried. We reject any teaching that abortions of pregnancies due to rape, incest, birth defects, gender selection, birth or population control, or the mental well-being of the mother are acceptable. You are quick to throw in a jab about how much you dislike them, but cannot tolerate anyone saying different. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. 12. Pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body My preacher never preaches that though there are very few people at my current church that smoke. I can count on one hand the number of IFBs whove asked for a discussion instead of attacking me. In the past 25 years, Ive seen many children leave but very few come back. We forgive people, but only God can forgive sins. But I do know some churches practice free will offerings instead of tithing. Ive addressed the scriptures about tithing in my article and explain it using proper exegesis and hermeneutics. Whether u believe its talking about judah/Ephraim or not. They are already spelled out in the Bible. I prefer Kjv! If you stay, Im almost certain youll end up regretting it. Like I said, funny post, but a bit judgmental as well. We believe in the bodily resurrection of all men, the saved to eternal life, and the unsaved to judgment and everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46; John 5:28, 29, 11:25-26; Revelation 20:5-6, 12-13). If I couldnt tolerate anyone saying something different I would instruct the site moderator to delete comments such as yours. Instead of attempting to find humor , find time to pray for them. [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. [5], In 2021, the NIFB-affiliated First Works Baptist Church in El Monte, California was bombed with an improvised explosive device. You got me I am an IFB college grad. 24. I rarely post on random pages I stumbled upon but by his reaction, he didnt think Dave intended to be offensive to prove a point. Im going back to my independent baptist church where there is no compromising. *gasp* Just kidding, just kiddingwe at least look for Baptist on the sign so were good . The bitterness argument has been answered many times. I forgave through the example of Jesus. The two are completely unrelated. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. Baptists believe the Bible and strive to live according to its teaching. We told to get married. If you see buses full of kids of all ethnicities and backgrounds coming to worship together, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. If you want a discussion ask for one. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. Tattoos are the marks of the Devil I really dont know if they are marks of the devil but I do agree that tattoos are sinful even if its against the Old Testament. I wonder sometimes if the pastor didnt hit one of your sins and instead of getting you under conviction, you just got angry. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. We believe that salvation is by grace plus nothing minus nothing. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.